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im gonna go with the "pursuit of ambition" argument. methinks men have a higher probability of never moving from "the world revolves around me" stage, and thus , have less of a chance of opening themselves to Him.
men are idiots. but then again, whats new?

Hmm... that sounds in a way like good news for me. Haha. But really, it is sad. I don't know why men seem to shy away. Maybe it is the way we preach the message. Love this... grace and mercy this... Not that it is bad, but what about... men we are going to war with spiritual forces, this is no time to rest on your bum... you can't just take that be a man and stand up for what's right! Just a thought...

Men arent idiots were just slower then most other animals ;! As for why? Hmmm... no idea... maybe it is just the way we are made...

Women=relationships
vs
men=projects

I just thank God you are not one of those men.

Yes, I've been wondering where all those eligible single Christian men are! There definitely aren't enough of them around, and those who are around can't/won't get their act together, and the rest are well...just...married!

men are sometimes more emotional. most of my christian friends are guys.. and in some way.. they're the ones who seem to have more passion and drive when they do things..

than again.. some of them fall away too. maybe coz of insecurities and some anger issues.

and i do think woman face temptations too. really. we do. im not a woman.. but im female so i suppose i speak for the majority.

well.. i dont really hear the female christians speak up on the temptations they face.. but i do suppose we do face them. instead.. i do think that men open up more and take more liberally about the temptations they face.

ok. now i think im going out of point. :)

me memememe! I'm a single eligible christian male...

no but seriously folks.
I hadn't noticed a dearth of single male christians. but then again i'm not back home all that much.

maybe its because the christian males marry earlier.
maybe it reflects that there're generally less males in singaporean society than females?

beats me.

i can say this. the numbers don't mean that much. christians in name do not equate to christians in action.

during my time in the UK I feel i've had my blinkers removed. often i'm "consulted" because of the field I work in, and the stories i've heard can be pretty hair raising. sweet young christian females... aren't quite as christianly as they would have other people believe.

maybe there're less christian males because blokes don't feel compelled to radiate an auro of goodness, just because?

i dunno.

haha, are you talking abt the church or generally, christians in Singapore?

Maybe christian males are busy doing God's work, or maybe they are just simply driven by ambitions.

Somehow, work seems to be the priority before marriage and the women beside them.

kzkz, i'm not sure. just talking crap.

i think it's because of the way societal expectations have shaped the development of males and females.

males are expected to be more worldly-wise, ambitious and all that to get to the top and conform to the standard of manliness. they may therefore see a wholehearted, open expression of being a Christian as wimpy/sissy etc.

females, however, are supposed to be gentle and meek and self-sacrificial. they are expected to be subservient. in the Bible, women are told to 'submit to their husbands'.

i'm female, and i defy all convention. well, except the one that says females like males.

eh.. now only you realised? hehehe... it has always been an issue in almost all churches i have attended since i became a christian 10 over years ago.. chinese churches as well as westerners ones.. almost every cell group i attended have this imbalance equation between christian men and women.. brothers who are regulars are very precious :P

sad to notice as well.. alot of our christian men dun seem to do well in relationships. many of my sisters have given up relationships with christian brothers.. some of now going out and some even married non-believers! a sister shared with me.. her non-believer husband (who thank God has committed his life to Christ now) was a much better person than all of her ex- christian boyfriends and treated her with much more respect and love! very sad..

i don't think the genesis quote refers to the male sub-species per se, but to all humans.

but anyway.

it's interestingly curious that you didn't realise that there were less males than females :) there are always ladies bible study groups around, not the male version. and my take on this - the message of Christ and His salvation demands that we acknowledge we're weak and sinful, and are in need of Him. that is is direct opposition to how society views the male - the provider, the aggresor, the strong one.

also the "activities" that come along with being Christian - doing bible study or singing songs or praying aloud in public are also somewhat alien or intimidating to males?

whats the big deal about christian men?
are christian men better than non-christian men?
are they one of a kind special men?
they are just like any other men, maybe even worse because they have felt the goodness of God but still act like the assholes they are.

there aren't many men around anywhere - period. Heh... I think they're all doing "men" things. (I sound so bimbo, but I don't know how else to express this.)

Not every woman is as lucky as your Faith to have someone special.

Call me cynical but some Christian men really don't act like one.... sometimes I wonder why. It shouldn't be.

I guess it's just like what we talked about many years back.... It's the ego, the pride that I find is much predominant in men than women. Perhaps that's why.

To be blunt, ladies, there's not a lot to recommend the majority of most single "Christian" women one finds in Church today to a man that truly wants to be a Christian Man.

Most single Christian women are whiney, spoiled, selfish feminist princesses. Too harsh a statement? -- please read on and see if the shoe fits.

Single Christian Women (SCW for short) EXPECT God to provide them a mate by a certain age. If this doesn't happen then they become embittered toward God and also embittered toward men.

SCW EXPECT that the guys that THEY are interested in are morally obligated to return the favor and find THEM attractive. To not do so is seen as a moral failure of not just that man, but also of all men. And embittered increases.

SCW find most Single Christian Men (SCM) boring geeks. SCW publically proclaim that they are looking for a "Godly" man, but so many then end up marrying non believers. Why? Because they are "exciting" or "dangerous". Call a spade a spade ladies, its called Lust and its not the exclusive providence of men! And then when such men use them and dump them, SCW once again consider themselves victims -- and embitterment towards men increases.

SCW EXPECTS SCM to be their entertainers. It is inconceivable that SCW should go dateless on a Saturday night. If that happens its can't be anything about SCW, its a failure of the SCM. And the bitterness increases.

SCW wants to control SCM. Ignoring the clear Biblical teaching that a husband is to be the leader of the wife and the wife is to be his helpmate and be submissive to his leadership, SCW comes up with myriads of ways to manipulate, undermine and in general run whatever dating relationship may occur between SCW and SCM.
Passive agressive behaviour, sulking, being mad all the time -- you name it. SCW fights for control of the dating relationship, trying her best to turn SCM into an inneffectual whining wimp. Which bodes really well for any marriage relationship that would occur to this unfortunate coupling.

Do you ladies see my point? SCM are not here for you to treat as a whipping post for your frustrations. Perhaps due to a false sense of Chivalry, SCM have put themselves into that role for too long! And speaking of ROLES, that is really the heart of the matter. SCW doesn't want the biblical ROLE that God gave to women, to be submissive helpmates to a man.

Read Proverbs sometime with particular attention to the characteristic of the Godly woman. Is she selfish? Is she loud? Is she a spoiled brat? Is she manipulative? Does she seek equality with man? Or, is she quiet? Is she gentle? Is she kind? Is she Chaste? Does she do her Husand Good and not evil all the days of her life?

Consider this when you consider the state of Single Christain Women and for that matter Single Christian Men in the Church today.

Eye....am dangerous, exciting, worthless and have no
future....but, eye have to run....there's a line outside my door!

The church has forgotten its roots. God created man to rule over all the earth. God created man first and made him strong to protect and lead his family. God tells us that as men we are to lead our families in faith. There is a reason God created tender loving women and strong aggressive men. The church however has completely adapted to it's 7 to 1 female audience which means women are in charge of most of what today’s church looks like. I don't want to go to church and hear I have to be passive, loving, and tender and then turn and hug whoever is sitting beside me. I want to be told to be a real man by controlling my worldly desires and go out there and be a warrior for Christ! I want to be lead by a man who has calluses on his hands and maybe a scar or two. I want to make Satan angrier every day I live. I want a church that tells its men to take responsibility, grab Satan by the throat and tell him "I'm a warrior and because of Christ I'm 1000 times stronger than you will ever be!" Why do I want to hear this kind if stuff? Because God made me a man for His purpose!